posted by [identity profile] berryann.livejournal.com at 09:23pm on 28/11/2011
People like to judge, Finn, especially in the “he/she had it all” category. Hasn’t our world become nothing but materialistic, in every tiny aspect? Where everything can be measured and estimated by…how much you have? How much you ARE seems not to be THAT important anymore… Everything, your success, your happiness, your level of self-fulfillment, all of it can be easily described by how much you have. And turning it all down in a blink of an eye is considered a blasphemy, isn’t it?

My friend killed himself too. And none of us could predict it. None of could foresee it. None of us could detect any change in his behavior at all. Apparently we didn’t try hard enough. We weren’t his friends enough…

I firmly believe that every suicide can be prevented – on one condition – that at this very crucial moment this person isn’t alone. Because it’s usually a moment – it’s all that it takes. People who want to commit a suicide may write goodbye letters and what not but I think they are somehow convinced that it’s not real and that nothing ‘final’ will really happen till it actually does… I’m sure that if there was somebody with them they’d just shrug, look back and maybe even laugh…till the next time.

It is very sad when people take their own life. It is very sad that Gary Speed killed himself. On many levels. My heart goes out to his family, especially to his kids.
 
posted by [identity profile] vida-boheme.livejournal.com at 09:42pm on 28/11/2011
"I firmly believe that every suicide can be prevented – on one condition – that at this very crucial moment this person isn’t alone. Because it’s usually a moment – it’s all that it takes. People who want to commit a suicide may write goodbye letters and what not but I think they are somehow convinced that it’s not real and that nothing ‘final’ will really happen till it actually does…"

I completely agree with this - 100%
 
posted by [identity profile] talkingtocactus.livejournal.com at 10:14pm on 28/11/2011
agreed :)
 
posted by [identity profile] tangotabby.livejournal.com at 05:09am on 29/11/2011
I firmly believe that every suicide can be prevented – on one condition – that at this very crucial moment this person isn’t alone. Because it’s usually a moment – it’s all that it takes. People who want to commit a suicide may write goodbye letters and what not but I think they are somehow convinced that it’s not real and that nothing ‘final’ will really happen till it actually does… I’m sure that if there was somebody with them they’d just shrug, look back and maybe even laugh…till the next time.


I've been thinking about this for the past few hours.

I don't believe that it's 100% true. It may take "just a moment" for the final step, but it's much more than a moment leading up to it. People can (and do) jump or shoot themselves whether or not someone else is there trying to stop them.

Someone being there may stop a specific instance, but the person *truly* determined to commit suicide will just make damn sure no one is around to stop them the next time. They are *counting* on it being final.

TBH, I don't want to believe it's true. That places an unfair burden on the people left behind. It's not fair to saddle them with more "if I'd only been there" guilt when they're saddling themselves with it enough on their own.

I'm certainly not saying that people shouldn't try to prevent suicides! Of course they should, and fortunately preventive efforts can be successful. Particularly for those whose suicide attempts are a cry for help rather than a determined effort to die. I just think it's unrealistic to believe that *all* of them are preventable.
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posted by [identity profile] ariadne83.livejournal.com at 11:30am on 30/11/2011
I firmly believe that every suicide can be prevented – on one condition – that at this very crucial moment this person isn’t alone.

*nods*

That was certainly the case for me.

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